K40 LPS parts and repair
DON"T IGNORE THIS!
WARNING: LASERS AND THEIR HIGH VOLTAGE SUPPLIES ARE BOTH ELECTRICALLY LETHAL AND OPTICALLY DANGEROUS. THEY HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO KILL AND/OR BLIND YOU
- STAY FAR AWAY FROM THE HIGH VOLTAGE SUPPLY'S OUTPUT!
- WEAR PROTECTIVE EYE-WARE AT ALL TIMES WHEN OPERATING A K40!
- DO NOT OPERATE A K40 WITHOUT THE PROPER LASER INHIBITING INTERLOCKS INSTALLED AND OPERATING PROPERLY!
- USE THE CORRECT HIGH VOLTAGE SAFETY PROCEDURES
BY READING THIS POST YOU AGREE TO USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Most people are not skilled enough to be around and inside a high voltage power supply
I DO NOT RECOMMEND THAT YOU REPAIR YOUR OWN LPS. YOU PROCEED FROM HERE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
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Safety references
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Replacing LPS as a Unit:
Replacing the LPS is dangerous so adhere to all HV safety precautions in this post.
Unplug your laser from the mains power and let it sit for 1 hr.
Observe how the anode wire is connected to the tube including the wire routing and restraints.
Install the new anode wire in exactly the same way.
At the Anode end of the laser tube
- Remove the silicon sheath from the anode connection. Minimize forces on the anode pin. It should pull off but if not you may have to cut it off.
- Your anode wire may be twisted, screwed or soldered on the anode pin.
- Remove the old anode wire.
- Replace the anode wire in the same way it was connected, twist, solder or screw.
- If soldering use minimal heat. Some recommend using Teflon tape to hold wires that are twisted see video below.
- Route and restrain the wire in the same way. Usually tie wraps around the tube moving away from the anode end toward the cathode end.
- Flow silicon around the anode wire connection (use the white tube that came with your K40)
- Push the silicon tube over the wet silicon filling the tube. If you had to cut off the tube you will need to replace it with a peice of silicon tubing.
- Add more silicon to the top of the silicon tube if needed
- Let dry for 24hrs before using the machine
Alternate silicon: Permatex Blue RTV Gasket Maker. Available in auto and big box hardware stores.
703 adhesive silicone rubber insulation/potting/electronic waterproof sealant (the stuff that comes with the machine)
703 adhesive silicone rubber insulation/potting/electronic waterproof sealant (the stuff that comes with the machine)
The videos below for removing a laser show connection and disconnection of the tube form its supply and can be used as reference example:
- Full spectrum @5:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBtMBGnp5p
Laser Tube and/or Laser Power Supply Replacement Parts Kit
A convenient way to buy parts for this replacement is to use this kit:
Replacing the Current Meter & Pot
Current Meter
This analog meters face is larger and has a larger mounting hole than stock:
There are many choices of cheap digital mil-lamp meters that could also be used in place of the analog one. Realize however, that it is harder to visualize fast moving current changes on a digital meter than an analog one. These meters also require a separate DC power source.
- Light Object: 3 Digit 100ma current meter
Another reason that I like the analog over digital approach is that although probably overly cautious, I do not like the tube and its power supply connected in any way (dc power) into the same system as the controller.
Current Pot
- A post on Replacing the Current Control Pot
Links to LPS Repair Posts
THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TO REPAIR YOUR LPS AND YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Testing Laser Power Supplies (LPS)
Coming soon
Schematic:
Frequently failed parts
- Input fuse: T5A 250V
- HVT transformer*: HVT choices are very confusing. There is a model A and and a model B type and they are different in how they connect to the PCB. There are two ways to connect to the PCB, with two bolts and with a 3 wire connector.When ordering from AliExpress you have to specify the right model so be careful.
- Model A with three control wires. Model A is the only choice for this type and can be identified by the 3 wire connector and plug. The core is positioned horizontally.
- This high voltage transformer (HVT) type mounts to the supply frame and is connected to a plug on the pcb.
- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/50W-high-voltage-transformer-for-50W-CO2-laser-power-supply/32725581921.html?spm=2114.40010208.4.126.QAdekb
- 2 bolt Models have 2 different core positions:
- This HVT type mounts directly on the board with two bolts.
- Model A with two bolts, core points up at a 45. I do not know if a 2 bolt model A will fit in a K40 LPS as my samples are all 2 bolt Model B.
- Model B with two bolts, core postitioned horizontal.
- 2 bolt purchase sources
- Input rectifier bridge:
- KBP310-BP (found in 40W) [3A 1000V]
- KBP2005G (found in 50W)
- GBU808: Purchase, Purchase, Data Sheet [8A@800V]
- UD4KB100-BP: Purchase, Data sheet [1000V @ 4A]
- ** KBP2066: Purchase, Data sheet [2A 600V]
- Other equivalent sources: Purchase, Purchase, Purchase
- High Voltage drive transistors
- IRF450: Purchase, Data sheet
- H switch transistors
- BC640: Purchase, Data Sheet
- BC639: Purchase, Data Sheet
- Capacitors
- Power Diodes
- MUR460: Purchase, Data sheet
- Opto Isolators :
- 817B: Purchase, Data sheet
- Low voltage PWM IC2
- KA5L0380: Purchase, Data Sheet (can only order 1000) DO NOT ORDER THIS ONE KA5M0380RTU "M" is a different frequency.
- KA5L0380: Purchase
- Laser power control PWM
- UF404: Purchase, Data Sheet
- 12V regulator
- 7812T: Purchase, Data Sheet
- 5V regulator
- 7805L: Purchase, Data Sheet
- Improvements:
- Snubber diodes
- Fuses
*It has been suggested that the HVT is the only difference between a 40W and 50W power supply. I have also noticed that higher power laser power supplies use multiple HVT to achieve their voltage.
** parts that I replaced in failed supplies
HVT Transformer Testing
This is an area of development. I am pretty sure that we cannot test HVT with conventional meters etc.
A reference to TV flyback testing methods.
I will update this area once I get a good and bad HVT to compare and test.
LPS Related Album
Enjoy be safe and comment
Maker Don
Hi Don! I've been searching the web for some laser wiring help and keep coming to your blog. There's soooo much to read, seems hopeless. Here's the deal, I purchased a laser, power supply and water system package gift (Christmas) for my bro-in-law and am in need of a schematic to hook up for a trial test. I would like to use a push button fire switch and a pot for current adjust. I have a laser probe to quantify the output. The laser is a Cloudray 40W, 720mm tube. The power supply is a Cloudray MYJG-40T. I read schematics so any help would be appreciated. Thanks for your consideration!
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Hi there, is it possible to upgrade a laser power supply? I.e. remove the old flyback and replace with a higher rated flyback transformer?
ReplyDeleteWhat wattage from and to?
ReplyDeleteHere is the proper Hswitch schematics:
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